And great, my post that was supposed to be for alienated/ignored women to get to express their feelings and be heard for once, is potentially hijacked by privileged feminists who need to completely erase the rest of us as usual and make it all about their “pain” again.
For a super hot Canada Day in Britain, a hotshot Canadian batting for the Brits. Charles Seymour Wright (”Silas”) was a badass physicist and straight-talking pottymouth, who took “get ‘er done” to new levels, from Antarctica, through two world wars, and back to Antarctica, with some various research posts in between.
He wasn’t actually 14 on the expedition but I was drawing without reference and I’m rusty. Bottom image based on this caricature by the invaluable Denis Lillie:
Here are some other photos i took of my sea pancakes!
i know i have not been posting much but i will be changing that this summer! i plan to post my WIP photos and other photos of my art on here that dont make it to my DA.
“According to the result of dimensional analysis of jerk … There is no universal agreement on the symbol for jerk … [these] are called jerk equations … This motivates mathematical interest in jerk systems. Systems involving a fourth or higher derivative are accordingly called hyperjerk systems.”
Honestly cannot tell if physicists are sincere or trolling.
They’re physicists. Pretty sure it’s both at once.
What if aliens visited Earth during the Jurassic Period, found it to be occupied with a bunch of mean, giant lizards and thought “Well, fuck this planet” and never came back?
what if when humans went out into the galaxy all the aliens panicked because if the dinosaurs’ tiny fur snacks now had spaceships and laser blasters and interstellar colonies then what the fuck were the dinosaurs up to???
and that one sign of that oppression is that some women, who fit a narrow physical description, get male attention
No, they say that one sign of that oppression is that ALL women get LOTS of male attention to the point of it allegedly being oppressive.
The narrative is not that this is something that occasionally happens to a specific subset of women in a specific way that’s bad. The narrative is that this is a universal, pervasive female experience that happens to all women, and that all male attention is oppressive no matter what unless the woman thinks the guy is hot.
I have to go to the tiny 1% of blogs like Ugly Girl Problems to find any women who share my experiences of getting no male attention, because 99% of the rest of the womanosphere is women complaining about drowning in male attention. And of course having it be only self-professed ugly girls who share my life experiences makes me like I too must be an ugly girl, even if I may actually possibly not be.
And of course it’s utter bullshit that all male attention is oppressive. I’m reminded of that video which allegedly showed a woman in NYC getting oppressive treatment, when there was actually only one guy who behaved in a remotely threatening or bad way (the one that followed her), while everyone else was just all “good morning gorgeous” or otherwise saying she was beautiful. I’d love to get to have that sort of “oppression”.
part of the feminist narrative is that another sign of female oppression is female self esteem based on male attention
So does that mean that it’s a sign of male oppression that male self-esteem is based on female attention?
Because not only is wanting to be seen as desirable and lovable universal to both sexes, but men get shamed hard if they’re virgins and/or can’t attract women.
Of course, the rational perspective is that this isn’t a sign of oppression at all, it’s a sign of being a normal human being. It’s normal to want to be liked and loved. Only someone antisocial would be OK with being considered unwanted and/or repulsive.
The feminist narrative isn’t that women are all drowning in male attention, but that society encourages and molds people to feel that they need to be drowning in that attention to feel good about themselves,
Which is something that the feminist narrative perpetuates, by pretending you’re not a Real Woman if you don’t get so much male attention you find it oppressive. Hell, I’ve been repeatedly misgendered by feminists for saying I don’t have that experience.
You’ll also forgive me I call total bullshit on people privileged enough to be desired and loved and have boyfriends/husbands trying to sell me that those things don’t matter and it’s OK to be lonely and unwanted. If it’s really so great and no bigs to be alone and unwanted, why aren’t they rushing to give up the love and sex they consider so oppressive and unnecessary to have?
It’s like rich people trying to convince poor people it’s better to be poor, and so the poor people shouldn’t want money. It’s all nothing but privileged people trying to pretend their privilege isn’t really a privilege. Except worse in the case of feminists, because they’re trying to pretend their privilege is really oppression.
Just the other day I was walking down the road with a friend, who was wearing shorts and a tank top, and then all of a sudden a guy comes barreling down the road in a suv and hangs out the window screaming “you’re so HOT!”… She gets that a lot. It feels threatening
Sorry, but, no. That’s your friend’s privilege talking. Because that’s not actually threatening. Annoying sometimes, sure (because it’s happened to me occasionally), but not threatening.
You know what’s actually threatening? Having a gang of bullies surround you and start taunting you and threatening to beat you up. Or having them actually beat you up. On a regular basis. Or getting hit in the head with an ice rock out of nowhere while walking through a playground. Or being constantly told you’re ugly, stupid, worthless, useless, etc. Or being told your beloved father died to get away from you because you were such a monster. Or trying to get a teacher to protect you from being beat up again only to get told you deserve the bullying. Or having a boss badmouth you to customers even when you were actually a good employee. Or having a landlord threaten to evict you for complaining the trash dumpster was an overflowing midden of filth because the pickups weren’t frequent enough, and for complaining that your ceiling was pouring water, and for complaining that it was the end of October and 40F outside but the heat that’s included in your rent still wasn’t on, and so on. Etc. Etc.
So your friend leads an extremely privileged life compared to me if she gets to think a guy in a car saying she’s hot is what’s threatening.
Make it easier for people in the bottom strata to find and form relationships with each other. Job done.
Hmmm, this may help. Also increased poly may help (high and middle strata people date more people, so there is more of them to “go around”) Although personally, the emptiness/worthlessness of not having a primary (or at least a partner I can pretend is my primary through a fuckton of denial) is very like the emptiness of being totally single, but I don’t know if other people get the same emptiness/worthlessness. I wonder how much of incel pain is from not having a partner, how much is from not feeling desirable, and how much is from being stereotyped as innately creepy. I’m guessing the proportions vary between individuals.
I think one of the most acceptable and realistic “solution” is to teach people to be feeling at least okay if they are like that. Personally I’m an incel, but then again I am relatively young and I haven’t actively tried having a relationship of that kind, nor do I really desire it so much that it causes me emotional distress at all, which I think partially is because of my personality tendencies, and some efforts at self-modification.
And I think a lot of the problem with the bottom of the totem pole is that a lot of people down there might just not have neough to offer to each others, and so if we raise everyone’s standard enough, the bottom of the totem may end up actually being alright because everyone would almost always be decent partners.
queenshulamit: Well if said mid and high strata people don’t want anything to do with you then to what avail? Is it not practically the definition of incel that no one wants to fuck or date you. So poly won’t improve things for incels and, if anything, will make things worse for many incel people. Although admittedly it’s better from a feminist perspective, pushing the sexual market towards equilibrium. For me a lot of incel pain is because of feeling that I am repulsive. Also that I’m repulsive by virtue of being a failure of a man, in a way that I wouldn’t really be if I were a woman so it’s not fair. Maybe the latter is just me being entitled, idk.
For me it’s pretty much all three of the things queenshulamit stated.
Made worse by the specific fact that women are supposed to be innately desirable and thus there’s something severely wrong with you as a woman if you’re not. The idea that a woman can be incel is barely on anyone’s radar.
But yeah, I admit I don’t have any good solutions. I mean, teaching people (both incels and non-incels) it’s actually OK to be incel will at least be a big and important help with the abusive treatment and some of the self-loathing, but it won’t do anything to help the deprivation of the need for emotional and physical intimacy. That’s the bit I don’t know how to solve short of some way of successfully converting people to being both asexual and aromantic.
If I ever have a live-in partner, or wife, I’m not sure I’d want to share the same bedroom. For a few reasons:
1) Sleep quality. “Brain scans have also
shown that couples who sleep together wake one another continually. Next
morning, their stress hormones are higher while their cognitive ability
is lower. 1” Seriously, how could I sleep well if someone else is moving, shifting, and getting out of my bed? It’s not like I can use Sleep As Android in that case ….
2) Her sense of style might conflict with my taste! It might get messy! How am I suppose dance around in my undergarments to 80s hits in the morning if someone is watching? I mean, I guess she could watch, but I doubt anyone would want to!
in conclusion, I am likely to remain 5evar alone
Just fall asleep in the warm embrace of each other’s arms, then have your butler and maid servants gently carry you to your separate sleeping quarters, where you can awaken in the morning refreshed and clear headed!
I’m confused that OP doesn’t realize that #2 is incredibly cute and endearing.
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